On Sun, Nov 07, 2021 at 10:34:07AM +0000, Cristian Marussi wrote:Hi Cristian
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 10:40:59AM -0700, rishabhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On 2021-11-05 02:43, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 04:40:03PM -0700, rishabhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > On 2021-11-02 04:32, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 01, 2021 at 09:35:42AM -0700, rishabhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > On 2021-09-01 02:35, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 06:48:35AM +0100, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 02:09:37PM -0700, rishabhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Christian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Rishabh,
> > > > > > >
> >
> > Hi Rishabh,
> >
Hi Rishabh,
Hi Rishabhb,
> > apologies for the delay in coming back to you.
> > A few comments below.
> >
> > > > > > > thanks for looking into this kind of bad interactions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There seems to be another issue here. The response from agent can be delayed
> > > > > > > > causing a timeout during base protocol acquire,
> > > > > > > > which leads to the probe failure. What I have observed is sometimes the
> > > > > > > > failure of probe and rx_callback (due to a delayed message)
> > > > > > > > happens at the same time on different cpus.
> > > > > > > > Because of this race, the device memory may be cleared while the
> > > > > > > > interrupt(rx_callback) is executing on another cpu.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are right that concurrency was not handled properly in this kind
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > context and moreover, if you think about it, even the case of out of
> > > > > > > order reception of responses and delayed_responses (type2 SCMI
> > > > > > > messages)
> > > > > > > for asynchronous SCMI commands was not handled properly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How do you propose we solve this? Do you think it is better to take the
> > > > > > > > setting up of base and other protocols out of probe and
> > > > > > > > in some delayed work? That would imply the device memory is not released
> > > > > > > > until remove is called. Or should we add locking to
> > > > > > > > the interrupt handler(scmi_rx_callback) and the cleanup in probe to avoid
> > > > > > > > the race?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > These issues were more easily exposed by SCMI Virtio transport, so in
> > > > > > > the series where I introduced scmi-virtio:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/162848483974.232214.9506203742448269364.b4-ty@xxxxxxx/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (which is now queued for v5.15 ... now on -next I think...finger
> > > > > > > crossed)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I took the chance to rectify a couple of other things in the SCMI core
> > > > > > > in the initial commits.
> > > > > > > As an example, in the above series
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [PATCH v7 05/15] firmware: arm_scmi: Handle concurrent and
> > > > > > > out-of-order messages
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cares to add a refcount to xfers and some locking on xfers between TX
> > > > > > > and RX path to avoid that a timed out xfer can vanish while the rx
> > > > > > > path
> > > > > > > is concurrently working on it (as you said); moreover I handle the
> > > > > > > condition (rare if not unplausible anyway) in which a transport
> > > > > > > delivers
> > > > > > > out of order responses and delayed responses.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tested this scenarios on some fake emulated SCMI Virtio transport
> > > > > > > where I could play any sort of mess and tricks to stress this limit
> > > > > > > conditions, but you're more than welcome to verify if the race you are
> > > > > > > seeing on Base protocol time out is solved (as I would hope :D) by
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > series of mine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know, any feedback is welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Btw, in the series above there are also other minor changes, but there
> > > > > > > is also another more radical change needed to ensure correctness and
> > > > > > > protection against stale old messages which maybe could interest you
> > > > > > > in general if you are looking into SCMI:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [PATCH v7 04/15] firmware: arm_scmi: Introduce monotonically
> > > > > > > increasing tokens
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know if yo have other concerns.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Rishabhb,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > just a quick remark, thinking again about your fail @probe scenario
> > > > > > above
> > > > > > I realized that while the concurrency patch I mentioned above could help
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > races against vanishing xfers when late timed-out responses are
> > > > > > delivered,
> > > > > > here we really are then also shutting down everything on failure, so
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > could be further issues between a very late invokation of
> > > > > > scmi_rx_callback
> > > > > > and the core devm_ helpers freeing the underlying xfer/cinfo/etc..
> > > > > > structs
> > > > > > used by scmi-rx-callback itself (maybe this was already what you meant
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > I didn't get it,...sorry)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the other side, I don't feel that delaying Base init to a deferred
> > > > > > worker is a viable solution since we need Base protocol init to be
> > > > > > initialized and we need to just give up if we cannot communicate with
> > > > > > the SCMI platform fw in such early stages. (Base protocol is really the
> > > > > > only mandatory proto is I remember correctly the spec)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currenly I'm off and only glancing at mails but I'll have a thought
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > these issues once back in a few weeks time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Cristian
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hi Cristian
> > > > > I hope you enjoyed your vacation. Did you get a chance to look at
> > > > > the issue
> > > > > stated above and have some idea as to how to solve this?
> > > >
> > > > Do you still see the issue with v5.15 ? Can you please check if haven't
> > > > already done that ?
> > > >
> > > > Also 30ms delay we have is huge IMO and we typically expect the
> > > > communication
> > > > with remote processor or any entity that implements SCMI to happen in
> > > > terms
> > > > of one or few ms tops.
> > > >
> > > > If there is a race, we need to fix that but I am interested in knowing
> > > > why the default time of 30ms not sufficient ? Did increasing that helps
> > > > and is this timeout happening only for the initial commands(guessing the
> > > > SCMI firmware is not yet ready) or does it happen even during run-time ?
> > >
> > > Hi Sudeep
> > > I haven't checked on 5.15 but after glancing at the code I believe
> > > we should
> > > see the same issue.
> > > I agree 30ms is a big enough value and should be something that remote
> > > firmware should resolve. But
> > > if remote firmware goes into a bad state and not functioning
> > > properly at
> > > least kernel should not panic.
> > >
> > > The issue we see here happens during scmi probe. The response from the
> > > remote agent can be delayed
> > > causing a timeout during base protocol acquire, which leads to the
> > > probe
> > > failure.
> > > What I have observed is sometimes the failure of probe and
> > > rx_callback (due
> > > to a delayed message)
> > > happens around the same time on different cpus. Because of this
> > > race, the
> > > device memory may be cleared
> > > while the interrupt(rx_callback) is executing on another cpu.
> >
> > So I was looking at the failure path you mentioned: a late concurrent
> > reply on Base protocol from the fw, during the probe, leads to an
> > invocation
> > of scmi_rx_callback() on a different CPU while core data structs like
> > cinfo are being freed by the SCMI core on the probe failure path.
> > (v5.15-added SCMI concurrrency handling stuff I mentiond shuld help for
> > races regarding xfer but not for the cinfo stuff in this case ...)
> >
> > We cannot defer Base proto init since we just wanna fail early while
> > probing if not even the Base protocol can work fine, and also because
> > Base protocol information are indeed needed for initial setup, so we
> > cannot juts proceed if we did not even got a Base reply on the number of
> > protos. (already said)
> >
> > In my opinion, the proper way to address this kind of races at probe
> > failure should be to ensure that the transport you are using is properly
> > shut down completely before cleanup starts (same applies for a clean
> > remove), i.e. scmi_rx_callback should not even be possibly registered to
> > be called when the the final cleanup by the core is started (devm_ frees
> > I mean after scmi_probe exit failing...)
> >
> > BUT indeed looking back at transport layers like mailbox and virtio,
> > this
> > should be happening already, because the flow is like
> >
> > scmi_probe()
> > {
> > ...
> >
> > clean_tx_rx_setup:
> > scmi_cleanup_txrx_channels()
> > ....
> > --->>> ret = idr_for_each(idr, info->desc->ops->chan_free, idr);
> > -
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > .... only after this scmi_probe returns the core devm layer starts
> > freeing devm_
> > allocated stuff like cinfo, AND the above per-transport specific
> > .chan_free seems
> > to take care to 'deactivate/dregister' the scmi_rx_callback at the
> > transport layer:
> >
> >
> > e.g. MBOX transport
> > -------------------------
> > static int mailbox_chan_free(int id, void *p, void *data)
> > {
> > struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo = p;
> > struct scmi_mailbox *smbox = cinfo->transport_info;
> >
> > if (smbox && !IS_ERR(smbox->chan)) {
> > mbox_free_channel(smbox->chan); <<< THIS MBOX CORE CALL DEACTIVATE
> > cinfo->transport_info = NULL;
> >
> >
> > e.g. VIRTIO Transport
> > -----------------------------
> > static int virtio_chan_free(int id, void *p, void *data)
> > {
> > unsigned long flags;
> > struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo = p;
> > struct scmi_vio_channel *vioch = cinfo->transport_info;
> >
> > spin_lock_irqsave(&vioch->ready_lock, flags);
> > vioch->ready = false; <<<< THIS VIRTIO FLAG
> > DEACTIVATE VIRTIO CBS INVOKCATION
> > spin_unlock_irqrestore(&vioch->ready_lock, flags);
> >
> >
> > ... AND both of the above call are indeed also spinlocked heavily, so
> > that
> > the 'deactivation' of the scmi_rx_callback should be visible properly;
> > in
> > other words I would expect that after the above .chan_free() have
> > completed the scmi_rx_callback() cannot be called anymore, because the
> > transport itself will properly drop any so-late fw reply.
> >
> > So I am now wondering, which transport are you using in your tests ?
> > since at least for the above 2 example it seems to me that your
> > race-on-probe failure condition should be already addressed by the
> > transport layer itself....or am I getting wrong the nature of the race ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Cristian
>
> Hi Cristian
> You caught the scenario perfectly. But there is still a possibility of a
> race. To be clear we use
> the mbox transport. Let me explain in more detail.
> Lets assume that the last command (base protocol acquire) kernel sent to
> remote agent timed out.
> This will lead to final cleanup before exiting probe like you mentioned.
> Once cleanup is done(mailbox_chan_free)
> no more responses from remote agent will acknowledged but if the response
> comes in between the cleanup in probe
> and the last command timing out we will see a race since the response can
> come asynchronously. In this scenario cleanup
> and scmi_rx_callback race with each other.
> I believe to solve this we need to synchronize cleanup with
> scmi_rx_callback. we can serialize these two paths
> and exit early in rx_callback if cleanup has been completed.
>
Yes indeed, but my concern is also not to introduce to much contention
on the RX path (with irqsave spinlocking & friends), given that this racy
scenario has surely to be handled but it is also highly unlikely, so I don't
want to slow down all the rx path all the time.
So I tried something along this lines:
----8<------
diff --git a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/common.h b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/common.h
index dea1bfbe1052..036f8ccff450 100644
--- a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/common.h
+++ b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/common.h
@@ -340,11 +340,13 @@ void scmi_protocol_release(const struct scmi_handle *handle, u8 protocol_id);
* channel
* @handle: Pointer to SCMI entity handle
* @transport_info: Transport layer related information
+ * @users: A refcount to track active users of this channel
*/
struct scmi_chan_info {
struct device *dev;
struct scmi_handle *handle;
void *transport_info;
+ refcount_t users;
};
/**
diff --git a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/driver.c b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/driver.c
index b406b3f78f46..5814ed3f444e 100644
--- a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/driver.c
+++ b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/driver.c
@@ -678,6 +678,16 @@ static void scmi_handle_response(struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo,
scmi_xfer_command_release(info, xfer);
}
+static inline bool scmi_acquire_channel(struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo)
+{
+ return refcount_inc_not_zero(&cinfo->users);
+}
+
+static inline void scmi_release_channel(struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo)
+{
+ return refcount_dec(&cinfo->users);
+}
+
/**
* scmi_rx_callback() - callback for receiving messages
*
@@ -695,6 +705,10 @@ void scmi_rx_callback(struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo, u32 msg_hdr, void *priv)
{
u8 msg_type = MSG_XTRACT_TYPE(msg_hdr);
+ /* Bail out if channel freed already */
+ if (!scmi_acquire_channel(cinfo))
+ return;
+
switch (msg_type) {
case MSG_TYPE_NOTIFICATION:
scmi_handle_notification(cinfo, msg_hdr, priv);
@@ -707,6 +721,8 @@ void scmi_rx_callback(struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo, u32 msg_hdr, void *priv)
WARN_ONCE(1, "received unknown msg_type:%d\n", msg_type);
break;
}
+
+ scmi_release_channel(cinfo);
}
/**
@@ -1506,10 +1522,27 @@ static int scmi_chan_setup(struct scmi_info *info, struct device *dev,
return ret;
}
+ refcount_set(&cinfo->users, 1);
cinfo->handle = &info->handle;
return 0;
}
+static int scmi_chan_free(int id, void *p, void *data)
+{
+ struct scmi_chan_info *cinfo = p;
+ struct scmi_info *info = handle_to_scmi_info(cinfo->handle);
+
+ if (refcount_dec_and_test(&cinfo->users)) {
+ info->desc->ops->chan_free(id, cinfo, data);
+ } else {
+ /* Stall till the ongoing rx_callback completes */
+ spin_until_cond(refcount_read(&cinfo->users) == 0);
+ info->desc->ops->chan_free(id, cinfo, data);
+ }
+
+ return 0;
+}
+
static inline int
scmi_txrx_setup(struct scmi_info *info, struct device *dev, int prot_id)
{
@@ -1792,11 +1825,11 @@ static int scmi_cleanup_txrx_channels(struct scmi_info *info)
int ret;
struct idr *idr = &info->tx_idr;
- ret = idr_for_each(idr, info->desc->ops->chan_free, idr);
+ ret = idr_for_each(idr, scmi_chan_free, idr);
idr_destroy(&info->tx_idr);
idr = &info->rx_idr;
- ret = idr_for_each(idr, info->desc->ops->chan_free, idr);
+ ret = idr_for_each(idr, scmi_chan_free, idr);
idr_destroy(&info->rx_idr);
return ret;
------8<-----
Can you give it a go on your setup ?
Beware it is not really tested on the racy error path (:P) and I could have
still missed something regarding synchro (and I expect an undesired refcount
warn on the scmi_release_channel too when the race is hit....but just to
experiment a bit for now and see if something like this could be enough while
avoiding further locking)
o
Looking back at this patch of mine, even though it could work for the
racy issue at
hand, it is currently clearly completely broken on the regular unload/free
flow since cinfo structs can be re-used multiple times.
Sorry, please ignore this attempt, I'll rework in a more sensible way.
Thanks,
Cristian