Re: [PATCH V2 22/23] perf tools: Allow system-wide events to keep their own CPUs

From: Liang, Kan
Date: Fri May 13 2022 - 11:46:59 EST




On 5/13/2022 11:21 AM, Adrian Hunter wrote:
On 13/05/22 17:12, Liang, Kan wrote:


On 5/13/2022 12:48 AM, Adrian Hunter wrote:
On 12/05/22 21:53, Namhyung Kim wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 3:35 AM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 12/05/22 08:27, Namhyung Kim wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 5:27 AM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Currently, user_requested_cpus supplants system-wide CPUs when the evlist
has_user_cpus. Change that so that system-wide events retain their own
CPUs and they are added to all_cpus.

Acked-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@xxxxxxxxxx>
Signed-off-by: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx>
---
  tools/lib/perf/evlist.c | 11 +++++------
  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c b/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c
index 1c801f8da44f..9a6801b53274 100644
--- a/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c
+++ b/tools/lib/perf/evlist.c
@@ -40,12 +40,11 @@ static void __perf_evlist__propagate_maps(struct perf_evlist *evlist,
          * We already have cpus for evsel (via PMU sysfs) so
          * keep it, if there's no target cpu list defined.
          */
-       if (!evsel->own_cpus || evlist->has_user_cpus) {
-               perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
-               evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evlist->user_requested_cpus);
-       } else if (!evsel->system_wide &&
-                  !evsel->requires_cpu &&
-                  perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) {
+       if (!evsel->own_cpus ||
+           (!evsel->system_wide && evlist->has_user_cpus) ||
+           (!evsel->system_wide &&
+            !evsel->requires_cpu &&
+            perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus))) {

This is getting hard to understand.  IIUC this propagation basically
sets user requested cpus to evsel unless it has its own cpus, right?

I put the conditional logic altogether because that is kernel style but
it does make it practically unreadable.

If we start with the original logic:

         if (!evsel->own_cpus || evlist->has_user_cpus) {
                 perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
                 evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evlist->user_requested_cpus);
         } else if (!evsel->system_wide && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) {
                 perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
                 evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evlist->user_requested_cpus);
         } else if (evsel->cpus != evsel->own_cpus) {
                 perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
                 evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(evsel->own_cpus);
         }

Then make it more readable, i.e. same functionality

         struct perf_cpu_map *cpus;

         if (!evsel->own_cpus || evlist->has_user_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else if (!evsel->system_wide && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus))
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;

         if (evsel->cpus != cpus) {
                 perf_cpu_map__put(evsel->cpus);
                 evsel->cpus = perf_cpu_map__get(cpus);
         }

Then separate out the conditions, i.e. still same functionality

         if (!evsel->own_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else if (evsel->system_wide)
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
         else if (perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;

Then add the new requires_cpu flag:

         if (!evsel->own_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else if (evsel->system_wide)
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
-       else if (perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
+       else if (!evsel->requres_cpu && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;

Then make system_wide keep own_cpus even if has_user_cpus:

         if (!evsel->own_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
+       else if (evsel->system_wide)
+               cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
         else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
-       else if (evsel->system_wide)
-               cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
         else if (!evsel->requres_cpu && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;

Which leaves:

         if (!evsel->own_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else if (evsel->system_wide)
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;
         else if (evlist->has_user_cpus)
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else if (!evsel->requres_cpu && perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus)) /* per-thread */
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;

And putting it back together:

         if (!evsel->own_cpus ||
             (!evsel->system_wide && evlist->has_user_cpus) ||
             (!evsel->system_wide &&
              !evsel->requires_cpu &&
              perf_cpu_map__empty(evlist->user_requested_cpus))) {
                 cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;
         else
                 cpus = evsel->own_cpus;

Perhaps I shouldn't put it together?

Cool, thanks a lot for explaining it in detail.
I do not oppose your change but little worried about the
complexity.  And I think we have some issues with uncore
events already.

Yes it is a bit complicated because we are handling
many different use cases.


So do you have any idea where evsel->own_cpus
doesn't propagate to evsel->cpus?

We let the user's list of CPUs override it i.e. the
evlist->has_user_cpus case.  Essentially we are expecting
the user to know what they are doing.


I think evsel->system_wide and evsel->requires_cpu
can be replaced to check evsel->own_cpus instead.

Not at the moment because we let the user override
own_cpus.

Do we check whether the user's input is valid (match the PMU's cpumask) before the override?

I think we know the PMU name. The cpumask of the PMU can be found in the sysfs. So we should have enough information for a sanity check.

For the uncore PMU case, I am not sure what sanity is :-)


For a non-core PMU, e.g., uncore, cstate, power and etc. The cpumask is under the /sys/devices/<PMU>/cpumask. It shows the cpumask which kernel supports. If a end user request a different CPU other that the cpumask, I think it's better throw a waning. It should mitigate the confusion which Namhyung mentioned (uncore -C1,2).

I don't know about the hybrid case. I suspect it doesn't
work because it would need to intersect own_cpus with
user_requested_cpus if has_user_cpus, wouldn't it?

For the hybrid, the cpumask is named as "cpus" under the sysfs. The name is the same for both X86 and Arm.
The current kernel will filter out the CPU which is not in the cpumask.
For the tool, I think we can throw a warning as well if the user requests the unsupported CPU.

Actually, there is already a patch to check and print a warning for the hybrid group. See commit 660e533e87ff ("perf stat: Warn group events from different hybrid PMU"), but it's X86 specific.

Maybe we can introduce a generic way by checking the "cpus" of the core PMU for both X86 and Arm. Then the above patch may be dropped.

Thanks,
Kan






Actually evlist->has_user_cpus is checked first so
uncore events' own_cpus might not be used.

Yes


In my laptop, perf stat -a -A -e imc/data_reads/
will use cpu 0 as it's listed in the pmu cpumask.
But when I use -C1,2 it'll use the both cpus and
returns the similar values each (so the sum is 2x).

We expect the user to understand the uncore PMU they
are using.  AFAICT an uncore PMU cpu mask with only
CPU 0 typically means a single PMU that counts events
that could be indrectly caused by any CPU.  When the
cpu mask has more than one CPU, it means a PMU for
each of a group of CPU's (e.g. a core or socket)

So in the example you gave above, there is only 1 PMU
and reading from any CPU will give it's value.

A user providing a list of CPUs for uncore events
is useful only in certain cases.  For example when
each core has an uncore PMU and you only want to get
values from one core.


I'm not sure if it's intended.  I expect it runs on
cpu 0 or one of the given cpus.  Or it runs on both
cpus and returns value in half so that the sum is
the same as the original value (from a cpu).

It runs on CPU0. The kernel will correct the CPU when initializing the event. The uncore is per-die (For the most current platforms, die is the same as socket.). Usually, it runs on the first CPU of a die.
For the -C 1,2 uncore/event/ case, the current tool creates two events. One for each CPU. The kernel will find the die ID of the input CPU first, then correct it to the first CPU of the die, which is 0.
So from the kernel's perspective, the perf command turns to -C0 uncore/event/ -C0 uncore/event/. That's why you see similar values each. (They should not be exactly the same. That's because they are not in a group.)



I don't know if there is anything wrong with the way
we are handling uncore PMUs, except that I don't know
if it is documented anywhere.

Right, we are lacking of the document for the cpumask. I guess I can update it in the Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-event_source-devices-uncore. But it's only for the developer.

At the meantime, I think it may be better to show an error/warning if the user inputs are not matched with the cpumask of the requested PMU. That's for the end users.





But the hybrid pmus make this complex.  Maybe we can move the
logic in evlist__fix_hybrid_cpus() here and simplify it like below

if (evsel->own_cpus) {
    if (evsel->pmu->is_hybrid)
       evsel->cpus = fixup_hybrid_cpus(evsel>own_cpus,
                                       evlist->user_requested_cpus);  //?
    else
       evsel->cpus = evlist->own_cpus;  // put + get
} else {
    evsel->cpus = evlist->user_requested_cpus;  // put + get
}

Then we need to make sure evsel->pmu is set properly.

What do you think?

Hybrid handling looks complicated.  I would have to spend time
better understanding it.

So, in the context of this patch set, I don't want to look at
issues with hybrid CPUs, except that there should be no change
to how they are handled.


I think we should at least run perf test on a hybrid machine. We already have some backlog to handle. It's better not to bring more regression issue.

Thanks,Kan