RE: [PATCH v8 6/7] apei/ghes: Use unrcu_pointer for cmpxchg
From: Justin He
Date: Fri Oct 14 2022 - 08:01:01 EST
Hi Ard
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> Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 6/7] apei/ghes: Use unrcu_pointer for cmpxchg
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 15:37, Borislav Petkov <bp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 12:04:57PM +0000, Justin He wrote:
> > > I have a concern about what if cmpxchg failed? Do we have to still
> > > guarantee the ordering since cmpxchg will not imply a smp_mb if it
> > > failed.
> >
> > Of course it will imply that. At least on x86 it does. smp_wmb() is a
> > compiler barrier there and cmpxchg() already has that barrier
> > semantics by clobbering "memory". I'm pretty sure you should have the
> > same thing on ARM.
> >
>
> No it definitely does not imply that. A memory clobber is a codegen construct,
> and the hardware could still complete the writes in a way that could result in
> another observer seeing a mix of old and new values that is inconsistent with
> the ordering of the stores as issued by the compiler.
>
> > says, "new_cache must be put into array after its contents are written".
> >
> > Are we writing anything into the cache if cmpxchg fails?
> >
>
> The cache fields get updated but the pointer to the struct is never shared
> globally if the cmpxchg() fails so not having the barrier on failure should not be
> an issue here.
>
> > > Besides, I didn't find the paired smp_mb or smp_rmb for this smp_wmb.
> >
> > Why would there be pairs? I don't understand that statement here.
> >
>
> Typically, the other observer pairs the write barrier with a read barrier.
>
> In this case, the other observer appears to be ghes_estatus_cached(), and the
> reads of the cache struct fields must be ordered after the read of the cache
> struct's address. However, there is an implicit ordering there through an address
> dependency (you cannot dereference a struct without knowing its address) so
> the ordering is implied (and
> rcu_dereference() has a READ_ONCE() inside so we are guaranteed to always
> dereference the same struct, even if the array slot gets updated concurrently.)
>
> If you want to get rid of the barrier, you could drop it and change the cmpxchg()
> to cmpxchg_release().
>
> Justin: so why are the RCU_INITIALIZER()s needed here?
In my this patch, I add the "__rcu" to the definition of ghes_estatus_caches. Hence
Sparse will still have the warning on X86 with this RCU_INITIALIZER cast.
drivers/acpi/apei/ghes.c:843:27: sparse: warning: incorrect type in initializer (different address spaces)
drivers/acpi/apei/ghes.c:843:27: sparse: expected struct ghes_estatus_cache [noderef] __rcu *__old
drivers/acpi/apei/ghes.c:843:27: sparse: got struct ghes_estatus_cache *[assigned] slot_cache
drivers/acpi/apei/ghes.c:843:27: sparse: warning: incorrect type in initializer (different address spaces)
drivers/acpi/apei/ghes.c:843:27: sparse: expected struct ghes_estatus_cache [noderef] __rcu *__new
drivers/acpi/apei/ghes.c:843:27: sparse: got struct ghes_estatus_cache *[assigned] new_cache
On Arm, IMO the macro cmpxchg doesn't care about it, that is, sparse will not report warnings with or
without RCU_INITIALIZER cast.
I tend to remain this cast, what do you think of it.
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Cheers,
Justin (Jia He)