Re: [PATCH 01/13] mm: Update ptep_get_lockless()s comment

From: Nadav Amit
Date: Wed Oct 26 2022 - 15:44:28 EST


On Oct 25, 2022, at 6:06 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> if (!force_flush && !tlb->fullmm && details &&
> + details->zap_flags & ZAP_FLAG_FORCE_FLUSH)
> + force_flush = 1;

Isn’t it too big of a hammer?

At the same time, the whole reasoning about TLB flushes is not getting any
simpler. We had cases in which MADV_DONTNEED and another concurrent
operation that effectively zapped PTEs (e.g., another MADV_DONTNEED) caused
the zap_pte_range() to skip entries since pte_none() was true. To resolve
these cases we relied on tlb_finish_mmu() to flush the range when needed
(i.e., flush the whole range when mm_tlb_flush_nested()).

Now, I do not have a specific broken scenario in mind following this change,
but it is all sounds to me a bit dangerous and at same time can potentially
introduce new overheads.

One alternative may be using mm_tlb_flush_pending() when setting a new PTE
to check for pending flushes and flushing the TLB if that is the case. This
is somewhat similar to what ptep_clear_flush() does. Anyhow, I guess this
might induce some overheads. As noted before, it is possible to track
pending TLB flushes in VMA/page-table granularity, with different tradeoffs
of overheads.