Re: [PATCH v3] x86: Use `get_random_u8' for kernel stack offset randomization
From: Maciej W. Rozycki
Date: Tue Feb 14 2023 - 00:13:33 EST
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30 2023 at 21:30, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> >
> > Therefore switch to our generic entropy source and use `get_random_u8'
> > instead, which according to Jason A. Donenfeld is supposed to be fast
> > enough:
> >
> > "Generally it's very very fast, as most cases wind up being only a
> > memcpy -- in this case, a single byte copy. So by and large it should
> > be suitable. It's fast enough now that most networking things are able
> > to use it. And lots of other places where you'd want really high
> > performance. So I'd expect it's okay to use here too. And if it is too
> > slow, we should figure out how to make it faster. But I don't suspect
> > it'll be too slow."
>
> Please provide numbers on contemporary hardware.
Jason, is this something you could help me with to back up your claim?
My access to modern x86 gear is limited and I just don't have anything I
can randomly fiddle with (I guess an Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 processor back
from 2008 doesn't count as "contemporary", does it?).
> Up to that point, it's easy enough to just disable that randomization on
> 32bit.
I think for 32-bit we could just go with `get_random_u8' unconditionally,
but if you'd rather I disabled the feature altogether such as in v1 or v2,
then I'm happy to resubmit whichever version seems the best, or make yet a
different one. Please mind the security implications of RDTSC raised in
the discussion though. Thanks for your feedback.
Maciej