Re: [PATCH v6 3/7] kunit: Add kunit wrappers for (root) device creation

[Matti Vaittinen]

On 3/27/23 15:01, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 02:34:02PM +0300, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
> > A few tests need to have a valid struct device. One such example is
> > tests which want to be testing devm-managed interfaces.
> >
> > Add kunit wrapper for root_device_[un]register(), which create a root
> > device and also add a kunit managed clean-up routine for the device
> > destruction upon test exit.
>
> I really do not like this as a "root device" is a horrible hack and
> should only be used if you have to hang other devices off of it and you
> don't have a real device to tie those devices to.
>
> Here you are abusing it and attempting to treat it as a real device,
> which it is not at all, because:
>
> > Special note: In some cases the device reference-count does not reach
> > zero and devm-unwinding is not done if device is not sitting on a bus.
> > The root_device_[un]register() are dealing with such devices and thus
> > this interface may not be usable by all in its current form. More
> > information can be found from:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20221117165311.vovrc7usy4efiytl@houat/
>
> See, not a real device, doesn't follow normal "struct device" rules and
> lifetimes, don't try to use it for a test as it will only cause problems
> and you will be forced to work around that in a test.

Ok. I understood using the root-device has been a work-around in some 
other tests. Thus continuing use it for tests where we don't need the 
bus until we have a proper alternative was suggested by David.

> Do the right thing here, create a fake bus and add devices to it.
>
> Heck, I'll even write that code if you want it, what's the requirement,
> something like:
> 	struct device *kunit_device_create(struct kunit *test, const char *name);
> 	void kunit_device_destroy(struct device *dev);

Thanks for the offer Greg. This, however, is being already worked on by 
David. I don't want to step on his toes by writing the same thing, nor 
do I think I should be pushing him to rush on his work.

> Why do you want a "match" function?  You don't provide documentation
> here for it so I have no idea.
>
> Anything else needed?
>
> > The use of root-devices in the kunit helpers is intended to be an
> > intermediate solution to allow tests which do not require device to sit
> > on a bus avoid directly abusing the root_device_[un]register() while
> > proper kunit device solution is being worked on. Related discussion can be
> > found from:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CABVgOSmx3A4Vwos2_8xO-XQrQAw5gvY0nc5zLpLmcJ7FtA-dTQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
>
> Again, no, please let's not get this wrong now and say "we will fix this
> later" as that's not how kernel development should work...

Ok. In that case I need to drop the tests from the series until we get 
the new APIs in place. It really sucks but I guess I understand the 
rationale for not wanting to "intermediate" solutions merged. Yes, I 
hoped it'd be Ok as David is already working on it - but I was still 
kind of expecting your response. This is why I made it very clear in the 
cover-letter and this commit message what is suggested here.

Jonathan, should I re-spin the series without patches 3/7 and 5/7 or can 
you please review this and I'll just drop those for the next version?

Thanks for the review Greg, I think this case is now "closed".

Yours,
	-- Matti

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Matti Vaittinen
Linux kernel developer at ROHM Semiconductors
Oulu Finland

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