Hi Sagi,
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 04:33:40PM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 09:29:41PM +0800, Li Feng wrote:
The default worker affinity policy is using all online cpus, e.g. from 0
to N-1. However, some cpus are busy for other jobs, then the nvme-tcp will
have a bad performance.
Can you explain in detail how nvme-tcp performs worse in this situation?
If some of CPUs are knows as busy, you can submit the nvme-tcp io jobs
on other non-busy CPUs via taskset, or scheduler is supposed to choose
proper CPUs for you. And usually nvme-tcp device should be saturated
with limited io depth or jobs/cpus.
Thanks,
Ming
Taskset can’t work on nvme-tcp io-queues, because the worker cpu has decided at the nvme-tcp ‘connect’ stage,
not the sending io stage. Assume there is only one io-queue, the binding cpu is CPU0, no matter io jobs
run other cpus.
OK, looks the problem is on queue->io_cpu, see nvme_tcp_queue_request().
But I am wondering why nvme-tcp doesn't queue the io work on the current
cpu? And why is queue->io_cpu introduced? Given blk-mq defines cpu
affinities for each hw queue, driver is supposed to submit IO request
to hardware on the local CPU.
Sagi and Guys, any ideas about introducing queue->io_cpu?
Hey Ming,
I have some vague memories wrt to this, but from what I recall:
- The number of queues is dependent on both the controller and
the user (Not a reason/motivation on its own, just clarifying).
- It simply matches what pci does (to some extent, outside of rx side
entropy that may exist), it just happens to take more cpu cycles due to
the network stack overhead.
- I didn't want io threads to change CPUs because of RFS/aRFS
optimizations that people use, which allows the NIC to steer interrupts
(and napi context) to where the io thread is running, and thus minimize
latency due to improved locality. that on its own was shown to be worth
over 30% reduction.
OK, sounds like one per-queue kthread model may work for this case, and
the kthread cpu affinity can be wired with hw queue's cpu affinity, and
scheduler may figure out perfect time to migrate kthread to proper CPUs,
and task migration is supposed to happen much less frequently.
- At some point nvme-tcp rx context used to run in softirq, and having
to synchronize different cores (on different numa nodes maybe, depends
on what RSS decided) when processing the socket resulted in high
latency as well. This is not the case today (due to some nics back then
that surfaced various issues with this) but it may be come back in
the future again (if shown to provide value).
- Also today when there is a sync network send from .queue_rq path,
it is only executed when the running cpu == queue->io_cpu, to avoid high
contention. My concern is that if the io context is not bound to
This one looks one optimization for send?
But this way actually causes contention with nvme_tcp_io_work().
a specific cpu, it may create heavier contention on queue serialization.
Today there are at most 2 contexts that compete, io context (triggered from
network rx or scheduled in the submission path) and .queue_rq sync
network send path. I'd prefer to not have to introduce more contention with
increasing number of threads accessing an nvme controller.
I understand contention doesn't have to require one fixed cpu bound with wq or
kthread. Using single per-queue work or kthread can avoid contention completely.
Here one tcp queue needs to handle both send & recv, and I guess all tcp sends
need to be serialized, same with tcp recvs. Maybe two wq/kthreads, one
is for send, the other is for recv? Or single wq/kthread is fine too if
the two can be done in async style.
Then the send_mutex can be saved, maybe nvme/tcp blocking can be removed.
Having said that, I don't think there is a fundamental issue with
using queue_work, or queue_work_node(cur_cpu) or
queue_work_node(netdev_home_cpu), if that does not introduce
additional latency in the common cases. Although having io threads
bounce around is going to regress users that use RFS/aRFS...
IMO, here the fundamental issue is that one fixed cpu(queue->io_cpu) is selected
for handling IO submission aiming at same queue, which can't scale,
because we can't expect userspace or scheduler to reserve this fixed cpu for
nvme_tcp queue.