On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 05:19:58PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
On 31.05.23 18:57, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 09:51:41AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
On 30.05.23 18:22, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 09:55:15PM -0400, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 11:18 AM Johan Hovold <johan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I took a closer look at some of the modules that failed to load and
noticed a pattern in that they have dependencies that are needed by more
than one device.
Ok, this is a "maybe something like this" RFC series of two patches -
one trivial one to re-organize things a bit so that we can then do the
real one which uses a filter based on the inode pointer to return an
"idempotent return value" for module loads that share the same inode.
It's entirely untested, and since I'm on the road I'm going to not
really be able to test it. It compiles for me, and the code looks
fairly straightforward, but it's probably buggy.
It's very loosely based on Luis' attempt, but it
(a) is internal to module loading
(b) uses a reliable cookie
(c) doesn't leave the cookie around randomly for later
(d) has seen absolutely no testing
Put another way: if somebody wants to play with this, please treat it
as a starting point, not the final thing. You might need to debug
things, and fix silly mistakes.
The idea is to just have a simple hash list of currently executing
module loads, protected by a trivial spinlock. Every module loader
adds itself to the right hash list, and if they were the *first* one
(ie no other pending module loads for that inode), will actually do
the module load.
Everybody who *isn't* the first one will just wait for completion and
return the same error code that the first one returned.
That's also a hell much more snazzier MODULE_DEBUG_AUTOLOAD_DUPS if we
ever wanted to do something similar there if we wanted to also
join request_module() calls, instead of it hiding under debug.
This is technically bogus. The first one might fail due to arguments.
For boot it's fine, as I can't think of boot wanting to support trying
to load a module with different arguments but who knows. But I can't
see it sensible to issue concurrent multiple requests for modules
with different arguments without waiting in userspace for the first
to fail.
Even post-boot, doing that sounds rather insane, but it would certainly
be a compromise and should probably be clearly documented. I think just
a comment acknolwedging that corner case seems sensible.
Because we won't be able to get the arguments until we process the
module, so it would be too late for this optimization on kread. So it is
why I had also stuck to the original feature being in kread, as then it
provides a uniq kread call and the caller is aware of it. But indeed I
had not considered the effects of arguments.
Lucas, any thoughts from modules kmod userspace perspective into
supporting anyone likely issuing concurrent modules requests with
differing arguments?
So the cookie shouldn't be just the inode, it should be the inode and
a hash of the arguments or something like that.
Personally I think it's a fine optimization without the arguments.
But it is what it is,
and apart from possible show-stopper bugs this is no worse than the
failed "exclusive write deny" attempt. IOW - maybe worth trying?
The only thing I can think of is allowing threads other than the
first one to complete before the one that actually loaded the
module. I thought about this race for module auto-loading, see
the comment in kmod_dup_request_announce(), so that just
further delays the completion to other thread with a stupid
queue_work(). That seems more important for module auto-loading
duplicates than for boot finit_module() duplicates. But not sure
if odering matters in the end due to a preemtible kernel and maybe
that concern is hysteria.
And if *that* didn't sell people on this patch series, I don't know
what will. I should be in marketing! Two drink minimums, here I come!
Sold:
on 255 vcpus 0 duplicates found with this setup:
root@kmod ~ # cat /sys/kernel/debug/modules/stats
Mods ever loaded 66
Mods failed on kread 0
Mods failed on decompress 0
Mods failed on becoming 0
Mods failed on load 0
Total module size 11268096
Total mod text size 4149248
Failed kread bytes 0
Failed decompress bytes 0
Failed becoming bytes 0
Failed kmod bytes 0
Virtual mem wasted bytes 0
Average mod size 170729
Average mod text size 62868
So:
Tested-by: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@xxxxxxxxxx>
In terms of bootup timing:
Before:
Startup finished in 41.653s (kernel) + 44.305s (userspace) = 1min 25.958s
graphical.target reached after 44.178s in userspace.
After:
Startup finished in 23.995s (kernel) + 40.350s (userspace) = 1min 4.345s
graphical.target reached after 40.226s in userspace.
I'll try grabbing the system where we saw the KASAN-related issues [1] and
give it a churn with and without the two patches. Might take a bit (~1 day),
unfortunately.
[1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20221013180518.217405-1-david@xxxxxxxxxx
Great, don't forget:
diff --git a/kernel/module/main.c b/kernel/module/main.c
index 82b0dcc1fe77..222015093eeb 100644
--- a/kernel/module/main.c
+++ b/kernel/module/main.c
@@ -3066,7 +3066,7 @@ struct idempotent {
#define IDEM_HASH_BITS 8
static struct hlist_head idem_hash[1 << IDEM_HASH_BITS];
-static struct spinlock idem_lock;
+static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(idem_lock);
static bool idempotent(struct idempotent *u, const void *cookie)
{
Finally was able to run it on that ThinkSystem SR950 with 8 populated
sockets -> 224 cores and 448 logical CPUs.
The KASAN vmap issues on that system were already no longer reproducible with your
(Luis) previous work that's already in master.
I tested a !debug and debug config (both based on corresponding RHEL9 configs), comparing
929ed21dfdb6 ("master") with 929ed21dfdb6 + Linus' patches ("patched").
Unfortunately, boot times vary a lot, and I did not figure out how to reduce
the noise. I captured the "systemd-analyze blame" output as well.
1) !debug config (not enabling KASAN)
a) master
Startup finished in 32.225s (kernel) + 7.399s (initrd) + 20.378s (userspace) = 1min 3ms
multi-user.target reached after 20.352s in userspace.
Startup finished in 43.734s (kernel) + 7.288s (initrd) + 19.827s (userspace) = 1min 10.851s
multi-user.target reached after 19.800s in userspace.
Startup finished in 50.514s (kernel) + 7.171s (initrd) + 24.757s (userspace) = 1min 22.443s
multi-user.target reached after 24.734s in userspace.
Startup finished in 26.722s (kernel) + 7.249s (initrd) + 23.923s (userspace) = 57.895s
multi-user.target reached after 23.892s in userspace.
b) patched
Startup finished in 36.318s (kernel) + 7.177s (initrd) + 21.383s (userspace) = 1min 4.879s
multi-user.target reached after 21.355s in userspace.
Startup finished in 36.318s (kernel) + 7.177s (initrd) + 21.383s (userspace) = 1min 4.879s
multi-user.target reached after 21.355s in userspace.
Startup finished in 1min 34.678s (kernel) + 7.239s (initrd) + 24.066s (userspace) = 2min 5.985s
multi-user.target reached after 24.040s in userspace.
Startup finished in 25.879s (kernel) + 7.144s (initrd) + 29.665s (userspace) = 1min 2.689s
multi-user.target reached after 29.637s in userspace.
2) debug config (enabling KASAN)
a) master
Startup finished in 2min 12.695s (kernel) + 25.058s (initrd) + 1min 13.012s (userspace) = 3min 50.765s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 12.903s in userspace.
Startup finished in 1min 45.400s (kernel) + 24.294s (initrd) + 1min 8.910s (userspace) = 3min 18.606s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 8.786s in userspace.
Startup finished in 2min 4.857s (kernel) + 24.715s (initrd) + 1min 5.088s (userspace) = 3min 34.660s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 4.967s in userspace.
Startup finished in 3min 20.400s (kernel) + 24.703s (initrd) + 1min 5.469s (userspace) = 4min 50.573s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 5.344s in userspace.
b) patched
Startup finished in 2min 5.250s (kernel) + 25.049s (initrd) + 1min 1.961s (userspace) = 3min 32.262s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 1.844s in userspace.
Startup finished in 1min 52.524s (kernel) + 24.897s (initrd) + 1min 5.062s (userspace) = 3min 22.484s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 4.916s in userspace.
Startup finished in 9min 36.817s (kernel) + 24.859s (initrd) + 1min 18.657s (userspace) = 11min 20.335s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 18.455s in userspace.
Startup finished in 30min 20.715s (kernel) + 24.722s (initrd) + 1min 7.039s (userspace) = 31min 52.476s
multi-user.target reached after 1min 6.907s in userspace.
What concerns me a bit, is that on the patched kernel we seem to hit more cases where
boot takes much longer (in both kernel configs).
I'll do some more runs/investigation to see if this is reproducible or just some system oddity.
Staring just at the udev settle time (systemd-analyze blame), it's very similar between both kernel
versions.
Thanks for these tests, having MODULE_STATS enabled +
cat /sys/kernel/debug/modules/stats
would be of huge value, both on master and + patched.