Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: swap: introduce swap_free_nr() for batched swap_free()

From: Barry Song
Date: Thu Apr 18 2024 - 01:28:09 EST

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On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:35 PM Barry Song <21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 12:34 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Barry Song <21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 3:13 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intelcom> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Barry Song <21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > >>
> > >> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 1:42 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Barry Song <21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 8:53 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Barry Song <21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 8:21 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Barry Song <21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 6:19 PM Huang, Ying <yinghuang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> Barry Song <21cnbao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > From: Chuanhua Han <hanchuanhua@xxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > While swapping in a large folio, we need to free swaps related to the whole
> > >> >> >> >> >> > folio. To avoid frequently acquiring and releasing swap locks, it is better
> > >> >> >> >> >> > to introduce an API for batched free.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Chuanhua Han <hanchuanhua@xxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Co-developed-by: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@xxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@xxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > ---
> > >> >> >> >> >> > include/linux/swap.h | 5 +++++
> > >> >> >> >> >> > mm/swapfile.c | 51 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >> >> >> >> >> > 2 files changed, 56 insertions(+)
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swaph
> > >> >> >> >> >> > index 11c53692f65f..b7a107e983b8 100644
> > >> >> >> >> >> > --- a/include/linux/swap.h
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +++ b/include/linux/swap.h
> > >> >> >> >> >> > @@ -483,6 +483,7 @@ extern void swap_shmem_alloc(swp_entry_t);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > extern int swap_duplicate(swp_entry_t);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > extern int swapcache_prepare(swp_entry_t);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > extern void swap_free(swp_entry_t);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +extern void swap_free_nr(swp_entry_t entry, int nr_pages);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > extern void swapcache_free_entries(swp_entry_t *entries, int n);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > extern void free_swap_and_cache_nr(swp_entry_t entry, int nr);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > int swap_type_of(dev_t device, sector_t offset);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > @@ -564,6 +565,10 @@ static inline void swap_free(swp_entry_t swp)
> > >> >> >> >> >> > {
> > >> >> >> >> >> > }
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +void swap_free_nr(swp_entry_t entry, int nr_pages)
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +{
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +}
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > static inline void put_swap_folio(struct folio *folio, swp_entry_t swp)
> > >> >> >> >> >> > {
> > >> >> >> >> >> > }
> > >> >> >> >> >> > diff --git a/mm/swapfile.c b/mm/swapfile.c
> > >> >> >> >> >> > index 28642c188c93..f4c65aeb088d 100644
> > >> >> >> >> >> > --- a/mm/swapfile.c
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +++ b/mm/swapfile.c
> > >> >> >> >> >> > @@ -1356,6 +1356,57 @@ void swap_free(swp_entry_t entry)
> > >> >> >> >> >> > __swap_entry_free(p, entry);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > }
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +/*
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + * Free up the maximum number of swap entries at once to limit the
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + * maximum kernel stack usage.
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + */
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +#define SWAP_BATCH_NR (SWAPFILE_CLUSTER > 512 ? 512 : SWAPFILE_CLUSTER)
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +/*
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + * Called after swapping in a large folio,
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> IMHO, it's not good to document the caller in the function definition.
> > >> >> >> >> >> Because this will discourage function reusing.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > ok. right now there is only one user that is why it is added. but i agree
> > >> >> >> >> > we can actually remove this.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > batched free swap entries
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + * for this large folio, entry should be for the first subpage and
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + * its offset is aligned with nr_pages
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> Why do we need this?
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > This is a fundamental requirement for the existing kernel, folio's
> > >> >> >> >> > swap offset is naturally aligned from the first moment add_to_swap
> > >> >> >> >> > to add swapcache's xa. so this comment is describing the existing
> > >> >> >> >> > fact. In the future, if we want to support swap-out folio to discontiguous
> > >> >> >> >> > and not-aligned offsets, we can't pass entry as the parameter, we should
> > >> >> >> >> > instead pass ptep or another different data struct which can connect
> > >> >> >> >> > multiple discontiguous swap offsets.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > I feel like we only need "for this large folio, entry should be for
> > >> >> >> >> > the first subpage" and drop "and its offset is aligned with nr_pages",
> > >> >> >> >> > the latter is not important to this context at all.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> IIUC, all these are requirements of the only caller now, not the
> > >> >> >> >> function itself. If only part of the all swap entries of a mTHP are
> > >> >> >> >> called with swap_free_nr(), can swap_free_nr() still do its work? If
> > >> >> >> >> so, why not make swap_free_nr() as general as possible?
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > right , i believe we can make swap_free_nr() as general as possible.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + */
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +void swap_free_nr(swp_entry_t entry, int nr_pages)
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +{
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + int i, j;
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + struct swap_cluster_info *ci;
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + struct swap_info_struct *p;
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + unsigned int type = swp_type(entry);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + unsigned long offset = swp_offset(entry);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + int batch_nr, remain_nr;
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + DECLARE_BITMAP(usage, SWAP_BATCH_NR) = { 0 };
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + /* all swap entries are within a cluster for mTHP */
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + VM_BUG_ON(offset % SWAPFILE_CLUSTER + nr_pages > SWAPFILE_CLUSTER);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + if (nr_pages == 1) {
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + swap_free(entry);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + return;
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + }
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> Is it possible to unify swap_free() and swap_free_nr() into one function
> > >> >> >> >> >> with acceptable performance? IIUC, the general rule in mTHP effort is
> > >> >> >> >> >> to avoid duplicate functions between mTHP and normal small folio.
> > >> >> >> >> >> Right?
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > I don't see why.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Because duplicated implementation are hard to maintain in the long term.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > sorry, i actually meant "I don't see why not", for some reason, the "not"
> > >> >> >> > was missed. Obviously I meant "why not", there was a "but" after it :-)
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> > but we have lots of places calling swap_free(), we may
> > >> >> >> >> > have to change them all to call swap_free_nr(entry, 1); the other possible
> > >> >> >> >> > way is making swap_free() a wrapper of swap_free_nr() always using
> > >> >> >> >> > 1 as the argument. In both cases, we are changing the semantics of
> > >> >> >> >> > swap_free_nr() to partially freeing large folio cases and have to drop
> > >> >> >> >> > "entry should be for the first subpage" then.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > Right now, the semantics is
> > >> >> >> >> > * swap_free_nr() for an entire large folio;
> > >> >> >> >> > * swap_free() for one entry of either a large folio or a small folio
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> As above, I don't think the these semantics are important for
> > >> >> >> >> swap_free_nr() implementation.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > right. I agree. If we are ready to change all those callers, nothing
> > >> >> >> > can stop us from removing swap_free().
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + remain_nr = nr_pages;
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + p = _swap_info_get(entry);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + if (p) {
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i += batch_nr) {
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + batch_nr = min_t(int, SWAP_BATCH_NR, remain_nr);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + ci = lock_cluster_or_swap_info(p, offset);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + for (j = 0; j < batch_nr; j++) {
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + if (__swap_entry_free_locked(p, offset + i * SWAP_BATCH_NR + j, 1))
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + __bitmap_set(usage, j, 1);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + }
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + unlock_cluster_or_swap_info(p, ci);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + for_each_clear_bit(j, usage, batch_nr)
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + free_swap_slot(swp_entry(type, offset + i * SWAP_BATCH_NR + j));
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + bitmap_clear(usage, 0, SWAP_BATCH_NR);
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + remain_nr -= batch_nr;
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + }
> > >> >> >> >> >> > + }
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +}
> > >> >> >> >> >> > +
> > >> >> >> >> >> > /*
> > >> >> >> >> >> > * Called after dropping swapcache to decrease refcnt to swap entries.
> > >> >> >> >> >> > */
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> put_swap_folio() implements batching in another method. Do you think
> > >> >> >> >> >> that it's good to use the batching method in that function here? It
> > >> >> >> >> >> avoids to use bitmap operations and stack space.
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > Chuanhua has strictly limited the maximum stack usage to several
> > >> >> >> >> > unsigned long,
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> 512 / 8 = 64 bytes.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> So, not trivial.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> > so this should be safe. on the other hand, i believe this
> > >> >> >> >> > implementation is more efficient, as put_swap_folio() might lock/
> > >> >> >> >> > unlock much more often whenever __swap_entry_free_locked returns
> > >> >> >> >> > 0.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> There are 2 most common use cases,
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> - all swap entries have usage count == 0
> > >> >> >> >> - all swap entries have usage count != 0
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> In both cases, we only need to lock/unlock once. In fact, I didn't
> > >> >> >> >> find possible use cases other than above.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > i guess the point is free_swap_slot() shouldn't be called within
> > >> >> >> > lock_cluster_or_swap_info? so when we are freeing nr_pages slots,
> > >> >> >> > we'll have to unlock and lock nr_pages times? and this is the most
> > >> >> >> > common scenario.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> No. In put_swap_folio(), free_entries is either SWAPFILE_CLUSTER (that
> > >> >> >> is, nr_pages) or 0. These are the most common cases.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > i am actually talking about the below code path,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > void put_swap_folio(struct folio *folio, swp_entry_t entry)
> > >> >> > {
> > >> >> > ...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ci = lock_cluster_or_swap_info(si, offset);
> > >> >> > ...
> > >> >> > for (i = 0; i < size; i++, entry.val++) {
> > >> >> > if (!__swap_entry_free_locked(si, offset + i, SWAP_HAS_CACHE)) {
> > >> >> > unlock_cluster_or_swap_info(si, ci);
> > >> >> > free_swap_slot(entry);
> > >> >> > if (i == size - 1)
> > >> >> > return;
> > >> >> > lock_cluster_or_swap_info(si, offset);
> > >> >> > }
> > >> >> > }
> > >> >> > unlock_cluster_or_swap_info(si, ci);
> > >> >> > }
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > but i guess you are talking about the below code path:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > void put_swap_folio(struct folio *folio, swp_entry_t entry)
> > >> >> > {
> > >> >> > ...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > ci = lock_cluster_or_swap_info(si, offset);
> > >> >> > if (size == SWAPFILE_CLUSTER) {
> > >> >> > map = si->swap_map + offset;
> > >> >> > for (i = 0; i < SWAPFILE_CLUSTER; i++) {
> > >> >> > val = map[i];
> > >> >> > VM_BUG_ON(!(val & SWAP_HAS_CACHE));
> > >> >> > if (val == SWAP_HAS_CACHE)
> > >> >> > free_entries++;
> > >> >> > }
> > >> >> > if (free_entries == SWAPFILE_CLUSTER) {
> > >> >> > unlock_cluster_or_swap_info(si, ci);
> > >> >> > spin_lock(&si->lock);
> > >> >> > mem_cgroup_uncharge_swap(entry, SWAPFILE_CLUSTER);
> > >> >> > swap_free_cluster(si, idx);
> > >> >> > spin_unlock(&si->lock);
> > >> >> > return;
> > >> >> > }
> > >> >> > }
> > >> >> > }
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I am talking about both code paths. In 2 most common cases,
> > >> >> __swap_entry_free_locked() will return 0 or !0 for all entries in range.
> > >> >
> > >> > I grasp your point, but if conditions involving 0 or non-0 values fail, we'll
> > >> > end up repeatedly unlocking and locking. Picture a scenario with a large
> > >> > folio shared by multiple processes. One process might unmap a portion
> > >> > while another still holds an entire mapping to it. This could lead to situations
> > >> > where free_entries doesn't equal 0 and free_entries doesn't equal
> > >> > nr_pages, resulting in multiple unlock and lock operations.
> > >>
> > >> This is impossible in current caller, because the folio is in the swap
> > >> cache. But if we move the change to __swap_entry_free_nr(), we may run
> > >> into this situation.
> > >
> > > I don't understand why it is impossible, after try_to_unmap_one() has done
> > > on one process, mprotect and munmap called on a part of the large folio
> > > pte entries which now have been swap entries, we are removing the PTE
> > > for this part. Another process can entirely hit the swapcache and have
> > > all swap entries mapped there, and we call swap_free_nr(entry, nr_pages) in
> > > do_swap_page. Within those swap entries, some have swapcount=1 and others
> > > have swapcount > 1. Am I missing something?
> >
> > For swap entries with swapcount=1, its sis->swap_map[] will be
> >
> > 1 | SWAP_HAS_CACHE
> >
> > so, __swap_entry_free_locked() will return SWAP_HAS_CACHE instead of 0.
> >
> > The swap entries will be free in
> >
> > folio_free_swap
> > delete_from_swap_cache
> > put_swap_folio
> >
>
> Yes. I realized this after replying to you yesterday.
>
> > >> > Chuanhua has invested significant effort in following Ryan's suggestion
> > >> > for the current approach, which generally handles all cases, especially
> > >> > partial unmapping. Additionally, the widespread use of swap_free_nr()
> > >> > as you suggested across various scenarios is noteworthy.
> > >> >
> > >> > Unless there's evidence indicating performance issues or bugs, I believe
> > >> > the current approach remains preferable.
> > >>
> > >> TBH, I don't like the large stack space usage (64 bytes). How about use
> > >> a "unsigned long" as bitmap? Then, we use much less stack space, use
> > >> bitmap == 0 and bitmap == (unsigned long)(-1) to check the most common
> > >> use cases. And, we have enough batching.
> > >
> > > that is quite a straightforward modification like,
> > >
> > > - #define SWAP_BATCH_NR (SWAPFILE_CLUSTER > 512 ? 512 : SWAPFILE_CLUSTER)
> > > + #define SWAP_BATCH_NR (SWAPFILE_CLUSTER > 64 ? 64 : SWAPFILE_CLUSTER)
> > >
> > > there is no necessity to remove the bitmap API and move to raw
> > > unsigned long operations.
> > > as bitmap is exactly some unsigned long. on 64bit CPU, we are now one
> > > unsigned long,
> > > on 32bit CPU, it is now two unsigned long.
> >
> > Yes. We can still use most bitmap APIs if we use "unsigned long" as
> > bitmap. The advantage of "unsigned long" is to guarantee that
> > bitmap_empty() and bitmap_full() is trivial. We can use that for
> > optimization. For example, we can skip unlock/lock if bitmap_empty().
>
> anyway we have avoided lock_cluster_or_swap_info and unlock_cluster_or_swap_info
> for each individual swap entry.
>
> if bitma_empty(), we won't call free_swap_slot() so no chance to
> further take any lock,
> right?
>
> the optimization of bitmap_full() seems to be more useful only after we have
> void free_swap_slot(swp_entry_t entry, int nr)
>
> in which we can avoid many spin_lock_irq(&cache->free_lock);
>
> On the other hand, it seems we can directly call
> swapcache_free_entries() to skip cache if
> nr_pages >= SWAP_BATCH(64) this might be an optimization as we are now
> having a bitmap exactly equals 64.

Hi ying,
considering the below code which has changed bitmap to 64 and generally support
different nr_pages(1 and ever cross cluster),

#define SWAP_BATCH_NR (SWAPFILE_CLUSTER > 64 ? 64 : SWAPFILE_CLUSTER)

void swap_free_nr(swp_entry_t entry, int nr_pages)
{
int i = 0, j;
struct swap_cluster_info *ci;
struct swap_info_struct *p;
unsigned int type = swp_type(entry);
unsigned long offset = swp_offset(entry);
int batch_nr, remain_nr;
DECLARE_BITMAP(usage, SWAP_BATCH_NR) = { 0 };

remain_nr = nr_pages;
p = _swap_info_get(entry);
if (!p)
return;

for ( ; ; ) {
batch_nr = min3(SWAP_BATCH_NR, remain_nr,
(int)(SWAPFILE_CLUSTER - (offset %
SWAPFILE_CLUSTER)));

ci = lock_cluster_or_swap_info(p, offset);
for (j = 0; j < batch_nr; j++) {
if (__swap_entry_free_locked(p, offset + i *
SWAP_BATCH_NR + j, 1))
__bitmap_set(usage, j, 1);
}
unlock_cluster_or_swap_info(p, ci);

for_each_clear_bit(j, usage, batch_nr)
free_swap_slot(swp_entry(type, offset + i *
SWAP_BATCH_NR + j));

i += batch_nr;
if (i >= nr_pages)
break;

bitmap_clear(usage, 0, SWAP_BATCH_NR);
remain_nr -= batch_nr;
}
}

I still don't see the benefits of using bitmap_full and bitmap_empty over simple
for_each_clear_bit() unless we begin to support free_swap_slot_nr(), which,
I believe, needs a separate incremental patchset.

using bitmap_empty and full, if we want to free all slots, we need
if (bitmap_empty(usage))
{
for (i=0;i<batch_nr;i++)
free_swap_slot(swp_entry(type, offset + i * SWAP_BATCH_NR + j));
}
This seems just a game replacing for_each_clear_bit by
bitmap_empty()+another for loop.

if we don't want to free any one, we need
if(bitmap_full(usage)
do_nothing.

in the for_each_clear_bit() case, the loop just simply ends.

What's your proposal code to use bitmap_empty and bitmap_full here?
Am I missing something?

>
> >
> > >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > we are mTHP, so we can't assume our size is SWAPFILE_CLUSTER?
> > >> >> > or you want to check free_entries == "1 << swap_entry_order(folio_order(folio))"
> > >> >> > instead of SWAPFILE_CLUSTER for the "for (i = 0; i < size; i++, entry.val++)"
> > >> >> > path?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Just replace SWAPFILE_CLUSTER with "nr_pages" in your code.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> And, we should add batching in __swap_entry_free(). That will help
> > >> >> >> >> free_swap_and_cache_nr() too.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Chris Li and I actually discussed it before, while I completely
> > >> >> > agree this can be batched. but i'd like to defer this as an incremental
> > >> >> > patchset later to keep this swapcache-refault small.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> OK.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Please consider this too.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Huang, Ying

Thanks
Barry

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