RE: [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm/gup: Introduce exclusive GUP pinning
From: Tian, Kevin
Date: Fri Aug 02 2024 - 04:27:12 EST
> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2024 10:34 PM
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 04:14:23PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>
> > 1) How would the device be able to grab/access "private memory", if not
> > via the user page tables?
>
> The approaches I'm aware of require the secure world to own the IOMMU
> and generate the IOMMU page tables. So we will not use a GUP approach
> with VFIO today as the kernel will not have any reason to generate a
> page table in the first place. Instead we will say "this PCI device
> translates through the secure world" and walk away.
>
> The page table population would have to be done through the KVM path.
>
Sorry for noting this discussion late. Dave pointed it to me in a related
thread [1].
I had an impression that above approach fits some trusted IO arch (e.g.
TDX Connect which has a special secure I/O page table format and
requires sharing it between IOMMU/KVM) but not all.
e.g. SEV-TIO spec [2] (page 8) describes to have the IOMMU walk the
existing I/O page tables to get HPA and then verify it through a new
permission table (RMP) for access control.
That arch may better fit a scheme in which the I/O page tables are
still managed by VFIO/IOMMUFD and RMP is managed by KVM, with an
an extension to the MAP_DMA call to accept a [guest_memfd, offset]
pair to find out the pfn instead of using host virtual address.
looks the Linux MM alignment session [3] did mention "guest_memfd
will take ownership of the hugepages, and provide interested parties
(userspace, KVM, iommu) with pages to be used" to support that extension?
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/272e3dbf-ed4a-43f5-8b5f-56bf6d74930c@xxxxxxxxxx/
[2] https://www.amd.com/system/files/documents/sev-tio-whitepaper.pdf
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20240712232937.2861788-1-ackerleytng@xxxxxxxxxx/
Thanks
Kevin