Re: [PATCH 1/1] x86: In x86-64 barrier_nospec can always be lfence
From: Andi Kleen
Date: Sun Feb 09 2025 - 23:29:58 EST
> So on x86, both read and write barriers are complete no-ops, because
> all reads are ordered, and all writes are ordered. So those only need
> compiler barriers to guarantee that the compiler itself doesn't
> re-order them.
>
> (Side note: earlier reads are also guaranteed to happen before later
> writes, so it's really only writes that can be delayed past reads, but
> we don't haev a barrier for that situation anyway. Also note that all
> of this is not "real" ordering, but only a guarantee that the
> user-visible semantics are AS IF they were actually ordered - if
> things are local in cache, ordering doesn't matter because no external
> CPU can *see* what the ordering was).
However in the local case *FENCE still orders, so it's actually not a
nop. Just normally you can't tell the difference in ordering semantics,
but it's visible in side effects like RDTSC.
-Andi