Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/9] bpf: Introduce load-acquire and store-release instructions
From: Alexei Starovoitov
Date: Thu Feb 13 2025 - 00:56:03 EST
On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 2:14 PM Peilin Ye <yepeilin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 10:51:11PM +0000, Peilin Ye wrote:
> > > > #define BPF_LOAD_ACQ 0x10
> > > > #define BPF_STORE_REL 0x20
so that was broken then,
since BPF_SUB 0x10 ?
And original thing was also completely broken for
BPF_ATOMIC_LOAD | BPF_RELAXED == 0x10 == BPF_SUB ?
so much for "lets define relaxed, acquire,
release, acq_rel for completeness".
:(
> > >
> > > why not 1 and 2 ?
> >
> > I just realized that we can't do 1 and 2 because BPF_ADD | BPF_FETCH
> > also equals 1.
> >
> > > All other bits are reserved and the verifier will make sure they're zero
> >
> > IOW, we can't tell if imm<4-7> is reserved or BPF_ADD (0x00). What
> > would you suggest? Maybe:
> >
> > #define BPF_ATOMIC_LD_ST 0x10
> >
> > #define BPF_LOAD_ACQ 0x1
> > #define BPF_STORE_REL 0x2
This is also broken, since
BPF_ATOMIC_LD_ST | BPF_LOAD_ACQ == 0x11 == BPF_SUB | BPF_FETCH.
BPF_SUB | BPF_FETCH is invalid at the moment,
but such aliasing is bad.
> >
> > ?
>
> Or, how about reusing 0xb in imm<4-7>:
>
> #define BPF_ATOMIC_LD_ST 0xb0
>
> #define BPF_LOAD_ACQ 0x1
> #define BPF_STORE_REL 0x2
>
> 0xb is BPF_MOV in BPFArithOp<>, and we'll never need it for BPF_ATOMIC.
> Instead of moving values between registers, we now "move" values from/to
> the memory - if I can think of it that way.
and BPF_ATOMIC_LD_ST | BPF_LOAD_ACQ would == BPF_MOV | BPF_FETCH ?
Not pretty and confusing.
BPF_FETCH modifier means that "do whatever opcode says to do,
like add in memory, but also return the value into insn->src_reg"
Which doesn't fit this BPF_ATOMIC_LD_ST | BPF_LOAD_ACQ semantics
which loads into _dst_reg_.
How about:
#define BPF_LOAD_ACQ 2
#define BPF_STORE_REL 3
and only use them with BPF_MOV like
imm = BPF_MOV | BPF_LOAD_ACQ - is actual load acquire
imm = BPF_MOV | BPF_STORE_REL - release
Thought 2 stands on its own,
it's also equal to BPF_ADD | BPF_LOAD_ACQ
which is kinda ugly, so I don't like to use 2 alone.
> Or, do we want to start to use the remaining bits of the imm field (i.e.
> imm<8-31>) ?
Maybe.
Sort-of.
Since #define BPF_CMPXCHG (0xf0 | BPF_FETCH)
another option would be:
#define BPF_LOAD_ACQ 0x100
#define BPF_STORE_REL 0x110
essentially extending op type to:
BPF_ATOMIC_TYPE(imm) ((imm) & 0x1f0)
All options are not great.
I feel we need to step back.
Is there an architecture that has sign extending load acquire ?
Looks like arm doesn't, and I couldn't find any arch that does.
Then maybe we should reconsider BPF_LDX/STX and use BPF_MODE
to distinguish from normal ldx/stx
#define BPF_ACQ_REL 0xe0
BPF_LDX | BPF_ACQ_REL | BPF_W
BPF_STX | BPF_ACQ_REL | BPF_W
?