Re: [PATCH v11 6/8] MAINTAINERS: rust: Add new sections for DELAY/SLEEP and TIMEKEEPING API

From: FUJITA Tomonori
Date: Wed Apr 02 2025 - 19:05:11 EST


On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 09:29:18 -0700
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 11:16:27PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 07:03:15 -0700
>> Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >> My recommendation would be to take all of `rust/kernel/time` under one
>> >> entry for now. I suggest the following, folding in the hrtimer entry as
>> >> well:
>> >>
>> >> DELAY, SLEEP, TIMEKEEPING, TIMERS [RUST]
>> >> M: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> > Given you're the one who would handle the patches, I think this make
>> > more sense.
>> >
>> >> R: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> R: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> > Tomo, does this look good to you?
>>
>> Fine by me.
>>
>> So a single entry for all the Rust time stuff, which isn't aligned
>> with C's MAINTAINERS entries. It's just for now?
>>
>
> Given Andreas is the one who's going to handle the PRs, and he will put
> all the things in one branch. I think it's fine even for long term, and
> we got all relevant reviewers covered. If the Rust timekeeping + hrtimer
> community expands in the future, we can also add more entries. We don't
> necessarily need to copy all maintainer structures from C ;-)

It seems I was mistaken. I had thought that the ideal goal was for the
same team to maintain both the C code and the corresponding Rust code.


>> >> I assume patch 1 will go through the sched/core tree, and then Miguel
>> >> can pick 7.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Patch 1 & 7 probably should go together, but we can decide it later.
>>
>> Since nothing has moved forward for quite a while, maybe it's time to
>> drop patch 1.
>
> No, I think we should keep it. Because otherwise we will use a macro

Yeah, I know. the first version of this uses a macro.


> version of read_poll_timeout(), which is strictly worse. I'm happy to
> collect patch #1 and the cpu_relax() patch of patch #7, and send an PR
> to tip. Could you split them a bit:
>
> * Move the Rust might_sleep() in patch #7 to patch #1 and put it at
> kernel::task, also if we EXPORT_SYMBOL(__might_sleep_precision), we
> don't need the rust_helper for it.
>
> * Have a separate containing the cpu_relax() bit.
>
> * Also you may want to put #[inline] at cpu_relax() and might_resched().
>
> and we can start from there. Sounds good?

I can do whatever but I don't think these matters. The problem is that
we haven't received a response from the scheduler maintainers for a
long time. We don't even know if the implementation is actually an
issue.