Re: [PATCH v8 00/14] Peripheral Image Loader support for Qualcomm SoCs running Linux host at EL2
From: Mukesh Ojha
Date: Fri Nov 21 2025 - 06:38:03 EST
On Fri, Nov 21, 2025 at 11:27:57AM +0000, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
> On 21/11/2025 11:01, Mukesh Ojha wrote:
> > In May 2025, we discussed the challenges at Linaro Connect 2025 [1]
> > related to Secure PAS remoteproc enablement when Linux is running at EL2
> > for Qualcomm SoCs.
> >
> > [1] https://resources.linaro.org/en/resource/sF8jXifdb9V1mUefdbfafa
> >
> > Below, is the summary of the discussion.
> >
> > Qualcomm is working to enable remote processors on the SA8775p SoC with
> > a Linux host running at EL2. In doing so, it has encountered several
> > challenges related to how the remoteproc framework is handled when Linux
> > runs at EL1.
> >
> > One of the main challenges arises from differences in how IOMMU
> > translation is currently managed on SoCs running the Qualcomm EL2
> > hypervisor (QHEE), where IOMMU translation for any device is entirely
> > owned by the hypervisor. Additionally, the firmware for remote
> > processors does not contain a resource table, which would typically
> > include the necessary IOMMU configuration settings.
> >
> > Qualcomm SoCs running with QHEE (EL2) have been utilizing the Peripheral
> > Authentication Service (PAS) from TrustZone (TZ) firmware to securely
> > authenticate and reset remote processors via a single SMC call,
> > _auth_and_reset_. This call is first trapped by QHEE, which then invokes
> > TZ for authentication. Once authentication is complete, the call returns
> > to QHEE, which sets up the IOMMU translation scheme for the remote
> > processors and subsequently brings them out of reset. The design of the
> > Qualcomm EL2 hypervisor dictates that the Linux host OS running at EL1
> > is not permitted to configure IOMMU translation for remote processors,
> > and only a single-stage translation is configured.
> >
> > To make the remote processor bring-up (PAS) sequence
> > hypervisor-independent, the auth_and_reset SMC call is now handled
> > entirely by TZ. However, the issue of IOMMU configuration remains
> > unresolved, for example a scenario, when KVM host at EL2 has no
> > knowledge of the remote processors’ IOMMU settings. This is being
> > addressed by overlaying the IOMMU properties when the SoC runs a Linux
> > host at EL2. SMC call is being provided from the TrustZone firmware to
> > retrieve the resource table for a given subsystem.
> >
> > There are also remote processors such as those for video, camera, and
> > graphics that do not use the remoteproc framework to manage their
> > lifecycle. Instead, they rely on the Qualcomm PAS service to
> > authenticate their firmware. These processors also need to be brought
> > out of reset when Linux is running at EL2. The client drivers for these
> > processors use the MDT loader function to load and authenticate
> > firmware. Similar to the Qualcomm remoteproc PAS driver, they also need
> > to retrieve the resource table, create a shared memory bridge
> > (shmbridge), and map the resources before bringing the processors out of
> > reset.
> >
> > It is based on next-20251120 and tested on SA8775p which is now called
> > Lemans IOT platform and does not addresses DMA problem discussed at
> > [1] which is future scope of the series.
> >
> > Changes in v8: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20251113-kvm-rproc-v7-v7-0-df4910b7c20a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> > - Addressed suggestion from Stephen which was regarding commit message(9/14),
> > debug log(12/14) suggestion, and return type change(4/14).
> > - Added R-b tag on 10/14 .
> Sorry.
>
> Did we actually come up with a cogent reason to omit the video firmware
> loading here ?
>
> AFAIU it is required for Lemans and Glymur - leaving it out is blocking
> getting video stuff done and storing up trouble.
>
> What exactly is the blockage - is it something you want help with ?
I replied to you here[1] and given my reason..till something concluded on
"multi-cell IOMMU[2]", I can not add video and block what is working
already.
[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20251105081421.f6j7ks5bd4dfgr67@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
[2]
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1762235099.git.charan.kalla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
>
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> bod
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-Mukesh Ojha