Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] powerpc: enable dynamic preemption

From: Jirka Hladky

Date: Thu Jul 30 2026 - 12:48:26 EST


On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 4:53 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> But is this really a fundamental RISC cost? For example, does arm64
> see the same performance issues?

We tested arm64 (Ampere Altra Max) with the same controlled
experiment -- two 6.18 kernels, both voluntary, differing only in
PREEMPT_DYNAMIC:

Arch PREEMPT_DYNAMIC kill bogo-ops/sec Delta
------- --------------- ----------------- -----
ppc64le off 108,836
ppc64le on 68,197 -37.3%
aarch64 off 5,538
aarch64 on 5,082 -8.2%

arm64 sees -8.2% vs ppc64le's -37.3%. So arm64 is affected but
much less severely.

> In particular, I can see why the preempt_count() operations need to be
> interrupt-safe, but I don't see why you would need barriers. And
> doesn't powerpc still use software interrupt disabling? If so, why
> not use that to simply software-disable interrupts around the
> preempt_count() operations?
>
> What am I missing here?

That's a good question -- I don't know enough about the powerpc
preempt_count implementation to answer this. Shrikanth, could you
comment on whether removing the barriers or using software interrupt
disabling around preempt_count is feasible?

Thank you
Jirka