Re: [PATCH] writeback: report a Tasks-RCU quiescent state per cgwb drain pass

[Josef Bacik]

On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 08:16:54AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2026 at 06:01:07PM +0000, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > +		do {
> > +			cond_resched_tasks_rcu_qs();
> > +		} while (cleanup_offline_cgwb(wb));
> 
> The patch looks fine but this overall seems fragile. cond_resched() was
> already marking "stuff that can take too long" but we need to use
> cond_resched_tasks_rcu_qs() if it can take *really* long. There gotta be a
> way to make this more maintainable. If always doing tasks_rcu_qs from
> cond_resched() is too expensive, can it be be gated behind something cheaper
> e.g. some tick based test?

Yeah I agree, it is fragile.  Every long running loop in the kernel that
only does cond_resched() is a potential multi-minute synchronize_rcu_tasks()
stall now that cond_resched() is a no-op on the preemption models most
people actually run, and playing whack-a-mole with
cond_resched_tasks_rcu_qs() at each site as we trip over them isn't a great
long term answer.

I'm working on something more general so we don't have to sprinkle
cond_resched_tasks_rcu_qs() everywhere, but I expect it to be controversial
and it's going to take a while to shake out.  In the meantime these are real
bugs that are taking machines down today, so I'd like to get the targeted
fixes in and to stable while the broader discussion happens separately.

Thanks,

Josef