Re: linux-hardware

Joe (josepha48@yahoo.com)
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:38:06 -0700 (PDT)


See below..
> > > Then a database accessible via WWW would do... and don't
> > > distributions
>
> > a database may not work for drivers that are not in the
> > kernel by default, or new drivers that get announced on this
> > list only after someone asks about them.
>
> With "add-on" drivers you are on your own anyway. Not for
> beginners, not
> for "I want to buy the foo card as there is a (alpha?) driver
> on WWW..."

many experienced Linux users do get the cards if they here there
is an alpha driver for it or a WIP for it, cause they know they
will be able to get it to work. hell I've done that

>
> > > handle stuff like that? Note that it will be swamped with
> "XYZ
> > > doesn't
>
> > distributions handle some of that stuff.. but they usually
> tell
> > you what works and what does not, they do not rate it AFAIK
>
> Rating is dangerous... if XYZ says "card foo model bar stinks,
> card
> whatever is much better" they can get into _serious_ trouble.

I am not talking a ratiung of this stinks or this is good, I am
talking more of this works this has mixed results.. a better
rating would be this card has problems here here and here, or
this card is known to work with many systems and blah blah.

Like I bought an S3Virage video card a while back only because I
had heard that X had support for it, (a while back) and only
after a long tormenting search.. I did learn a little about
video cards, but it was more than I realy wanted to know...

>
> Also, PCs are a true, disgusting mess hardware-wise. What
> works in mine may
> well not work in yours, because of BIOS, chipset, ...
> incompatibilities.
>

true and info like that could be useful to all using Linux

> > > For high(er) end machines, no HOWTO will be able to help
> you
> > > anyway. Best bet is getting a local supplier and check the
> stuff out
> > > before buying, or getting the machine form one of the
> shops that build
> > > Linux machines.
>
> > yes but how many local computer stores know about Linux?
> Hell
> > half of them don't know anything about computers.
>
> For a higher-end machine you don't go to the supermarket, do
> you?
>

Don't take this wrong, but I build it myself.. I don't know
about you... I bought my first computer and felt like I got
screwed royally. I actually expected one thing and when I got
it, it did not have what I wanted in it. Ever since I have built
my own. I'd rather buy off the web from certain shops. I am more
likely to buy from someplace that is willing to list or link
info about the product too, especially if they describe some of
the specs. There is one place that I know of that is good with
linking to the MB manufacturer site, there tech support is good,
and there email support is also good. They are even willing to
help a little with Linux, or atleast they helped me since I
bought some parts form them.

> > > I recently bought a new machine, and it was quite a lot of
> checking
> > > different sources (Red Hat's pages, XFree86, the various
> makers of the
> > > pieces, HOWTOs, ...).
>
> > yup.. but should it be?
>
> Nope, but that is the way it is now. BTW, repeat the excercise
> with SCO, or
> Solaris, or another PC Unix. Stores have heard of Linux, there
> is
> information out on it. For others... forget it, for the most
> part. Or buy a
> way overpriced machine that is guaranteed to work.

I have Solaris7.. last I checked they had some info on one of
there cdroms or something like that that did not say much. It
was basically a list. The Linux hardware howto was more
informative, but it was last updated in March or May of this
year. Alot has changed since then, in terms of available and
usable hardware. Unfortuantely documentation is one of the
hardest thing to keep updated..

JOe please cc ..not on list
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