Re: umount

[Bill Davidsen]

linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
> > On 11/27/05, Jim Crilly <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/27/05 09:01:07PM -0500, Patrick McFarland wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sunday 27 November 2005 20:42, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/27/05, Grant Coady <grant_lkml@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It leaves me with a little distrust of linux' handling of non-locked
> > > > > > removable media (as opposed to lockable media like a zipdisk or cdrom).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Grant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Under Windows, if a 1394 drive is unplugged without unmounting, it you
> > > > > get a pop up dialog on screen telling you that data may be lost, etc.
> > > > > while under any of the main environments I've tried under Linux
> > > > > (Gnome, KDE, fluxbox) there are no such messages to the user. I have
> > > > > not investigated log files very deeply, other than to say that dmesg
> > > > > will show the drive going away but doesn't say it was a problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > I realize it's probably 100x more difficult to do this under Linux, at
> > > > > least at the gui level, but I agree with your main point that my trust
> > > > > factor is just a bit lower here.
> > > >
> > > > No, WIndows says that because it is unable to mount a partition as sync,
> > > > unlike Linux. Linux Desktop Environments simply don't tell the user because
> > > > no data is lost if they unplug the media.
> > >
> > > Both of those statements are not true.
> >
> > Jim,
> >  I'm not clear if 'both statements' included any of mine or not? :-)
> >
> >  You discussed the event I was thinking of. I am writing to a 1394
> > drive, bus powered or not, and while the write is occuring I unplug
> > the cable. Clearly the data being written is not going to finish, and
> > that's expected, but the 'reduced confidence' issue is that I'm not
> > told directly of the event. Granted I'll eventually discover it in
> > some indrect manner, like a GUI action failing or something timing
> > out. However in Windows I do appreciate the clear message that this
> > has happened.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
>
>
> Doesn't your GUI show a 'console' window? I don't use the GUI,
> but the last time I checked, there was a 'console' window that
> showed the error messages. This was standard with Sun.
>
> If you can find the 'console' window in your distribution, activate
> it. If it doesn't have one, contact your vendor or make one. There
> needs to be some visible evidence that something is going wrong.

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