Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C

From: J.A. Magallón
Date: Tue Dec 04 2007 - 16:48:09 EST


On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:57:27 +0000, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > You could write an equally effcient kernel in languages like C++,
> > using C++ abstractions as a high level organization, where
>
> It's very very hard to generate good C code because of the numerous ways
> objects get temporarily created, and the week aliasing rules (as with C).
>

That is what I like of C++, with good placement of high level features
like const's and & (references) one can gain fine control over what
gets copied or not.
Try to write a Vector class that does ops with SSE without storing
temporals on the stack. Its a good example of how one can get low
level control, and gcc is pretty good simplifying things like u=v+2*w
and not putting anything on the stack, all in xmm registers.

The advantage is you onle has to be careful one time, when you write
the class.

> There are reasons that Fortran lives on (and no I'm not suggesting one
> should rewrite the kernel in Fortran ;)) and the fact its not really got
> pointer aliasing or "address of" operators and all the resulting
> optimsation problems is one of the big ones.
>


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