RE: [PATCH V2 1/1] perf/x86: Add Intel power cstate PMUs support

From: Liang, Kan
Date: Fri Aug 28 2015 - 11:01:00 EST




> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Liang, Kan <kan.liang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> I understand that these metrics are useful and needed however if I
> >> >> look at the broader picture I see many PMUs doing similar things
> >> >> or appearing different when they are actually very close. It would
> >> >> be nice to have a more unified approach. You have RAPL (client,
> >> >> server) which appears as the power PMU. You have the PCU uncore
> on
> >> >> servers which also provides C-state residency info. Yet, all these
> >> >> appear differently and expose events with different names.
> >> >> I think we could benefit from a more unifie approach here such
> >> >> that you would be able to do
> >> >>
> >> >> $ perf stat -a -e power/c6-residency/, power/energy-pkg/
> >> >>
> >> >> on client and server without having to change the pmu name of the
> >> >> event names.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I agree. I'll think about it.
> >> >
> >
> > Hi Stephane,
> >
> > I thought more about your suggestion regarding to create a unified
> > power PMU for all related events include RAPL and residency.
> > It looks we can benefit from a simple unified name, but it also brings
> > too much confusion.
> > - cstate residency is the time of the core/socket in specific cstate.
> > While RAPL event is the power core/socket which consumed.
> > They have different concepts.
> > - cstate residency includes both per-core and per-socket events.
> > RAPL events is only per-socket. So the CPU mask is different.
> > It's very confused that the events in same PMU has different CPU
> mask.
> >
> > So I think it should be better to use different PMUs for RAPL and
> residency.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> Well, you are maybe confusing events with PMU. If you look at the core
> PMU, it cover many events measuring vastly different aspects of the core.
> Some events are per-thread, others are per-core.
>
> Here, I was thinking it would be good to have some power// PMU with
> many events covering cstate residency, energy consumption. And yes,
> some events would be per-socket, others per-core.

So you agree to create two new cstate PMUs (per-core and per-socket) to
cover cstate residency?
If so, I will start to implement the V3 version for two new PMUs.

Thanks,
Kan