Re: [RFC v0 7/8] Input: ims-pcu: use firmware_stat instead of completion

From: Arend van Spriel
Date: Wed Aug 03 2016 - 16:50:41 EST




On 03-08-16 17:35, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>> In my opinion the kernel should provide functionality to user-space and
>> > user-space providing functionality to the kernel should be avoided.
> Why? We have bunch of stuff running in userspace for the kernel. Fuse
> for example. I am sure there are more.

To me "running in user-space" is not the same as providing
functionality, but I see your point given below.

>> >
>>> > > If we solve waiting for rootfs (or something else that may contain
>>> > > firmware) then these cases will not need to use usermode helper.
>> >
>> > If firmware (or whatever) API could get notification of mount syscall it
>> > could be used to retry firmware loading instead of periodic polling.
>> > That leaves the question raised by you about when to stop trying. The
>> > initlevel stuff is probably a user-space only concept, right? So no
>> > ideas how the kernel itself could decide except for a "long" timeout.
> The kernel really does not know, it can only guess. The firmware may get
> delivered by motorized carrier pidgeons. But distribution does know how
> they set up, so they are in position to tell the kernel "go" or "give
> up".

What distro employs pidgeons. Like to give it a spin ;-)

Maybe the latest idea from Luis is a viable option.

Regards,
Arend