Re: [PATCH 09/10] perf, tools: Support DividedBy header in JSON event list

From: Jiri Olsa
Date: Mon Oct 17 2016 - 13:46:37 EST


On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 07:43:12PM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 09:27:54AM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 01:44:43PM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 02:15:31PM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > From: Andi Kleen <ak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > > Add support for parsing the DividedBy header in the JSON event lists and
> > > > storing them in the alias structure.
> > >
> > > I wish you'd add JSON tags always one by one as you did in here ;-)
> > >
> > > however Ithink we'll need more info here:
> > > - what's the value?
> > > - what's it going to be used for?
> >
> > That's all described in the next patch. But I can copy the description.
> >
> > > - looks like formula stuff, why post processing via python/perl can't be used in this case?
> >
> > It would be fairly complicated to interface that with event lists, and
> > also still wouldn't work with standard perf stat.
> >
> > DividedBy already covers the majority of interesting cases and fits
> > nicely with the existing frame work. If we wanted more complex
> > formulas something with python would be probably needed, but I don't see
> > the need yet.
>
> so..
>
> - you put 'DividedBy' into JSON event's defition any further
^ without ;-)

> explanation how or why the format we use for event defs will
> be used now used to describe ratios
>
> - then you force perf stat to merge together all 'same' uncore events
> to get just one number..
>
> - then you display that ratio (just the number) in perf stat metrics output
> without any explanation or description
>
> I dont see that as a nicely fit, more like hack
>
> please let's go first to discuss the DividedBy being included
> in JSON defs, which is fragile topic to begin with
>
> thanks,
> jirka