Re: [BUG] x86 : i486 reporting to be vulnerable to Meltdown/Spectre_V1/Spectre_V2

[Ondrej Zary]

On Thursday 08 February 2018, tedheadster wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:02 PM, David Laight <David.Laight@xxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
> > From: Arnd Bergmann
> >
> >> Sent: 08 February 2018 15:23
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> The Winchip is what eventually turned into the VIA Nano, which does
> >> have speculative execution, but I don't think the earlier C3 and C7 did,
> >> they are much closer to the original Winchip design.
> >
> > We had terrible trouble getting (IIRC) the C7 to execute functions
> > that were called in 16bit mode and returned in 32bit mode and v.v.
> > (for boot code bios calls).
> > The problems seemed to imply that it was caching return addresses
> > and the translation (to uops) of the instructions that followed.
> > So it would effectively decode the first few bytes in the wrong mode.
> > So there might be scope for one of these attacks.
> >
> > OTOH these devices were so slow that I doubt any are used for anything
> > serious - and certainly won't get a kernel update even if they are.
> >
> > Also worth nothing that the difference between the cpu and memory
> > speeds is much lower - so far fewer instructions could be speculatively
> > executed while waiting a cache miss.
> >
> > Tempting to disable everything.
> >
> >         David
>
> You might think this absolutely crazy, but I would be willing to test
> such systems if I can get my hands on the needed hardware that I lack.
> I am already doing sanity testing on Intel
> i486/i586/i586-MMX/i686-PentiumPro systems, I just don't have the
> clone cpus (Cyrix, etc).
>
> While few people are using the 32bit kernel, I don't think we want to
> kill it completely just yet.
>
> - Matthew

I have a working Cyrix MII (was actively using it last year, now upgraded to a 
P3-based Celeron). Some AMD CPUs too - K6(maybe -2 or -3?), not sure about K5 
and also a Rise mP6. But never got a WinChip.

So the question is: what to test?

BTW. Kernel was not able to identify mP6 CPU 6 years ago, patches were 
ignored.

-- 
Ondrej Zary