Re: overlayfs access checks on underlying layers

From: Casey Schaufler
Date: Mon Mar 04 2019 - 12:56:54 EST

On 3/4/2019 9:01 AM, Mark Salyzyn wrote:

Adding linux-security-module to the CC. Please keep the general
LSM community in to loop.

On 11/29/2018 05:49 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
So will override_creds=off solve the NFS issue also where all access will
happen with the creds of task now? Though it will stil require more
priviliges in task for other operations in overlay to succeed.

NFS problems seems to have ended the discussion, too many stakeholders? too many outstanding questions?

Do we accept the limitations of the override_creds patch as is, and then have the folks more familiar with the NFS scenario(s) build on it?


After looking at all this discussion, it feels like a larger audited rewrite of the security model is in order and override_creds=off may be a disservice (although expediently deals with Android's needs) to a correct general solution. I admit I have little idea where to go from here for a general solution.

As far as I see it, the model of creator && caller credentials is a problem for any non-overlapping (MAC) privilege models. This patch allows one to drop any creator privilege escalation, re-introducing the "caller" to the lower layers.

As such I would expect a better model is to _always_ check the caller credentials again in the lower layers, and only check the creator credentials, some without caller credentials, for some special cases? Change an && to an || for some of the checks? What are those special cases? I must admit _none_ of those special cases need attention in the Android usage models though making it difficult for me to do the fight thing for the associated stakeholders.

The lower privileged application access to the directory cache inherited by other callers troubles me (not for Android, but in general) and feels troublesome (flush out the directory cache? how to tag the privileges associated with the current instance of the directory cache?). Some operations (eg: delete a file for incoming, create mknod in upperdir) are special cases requiring the checking of caller credentaisl to function (not a problem for Android as the caller that deletes a file just so happens to have the necessary privileges).

Also, mount namespaces (in upper, lower, etc), how will they affect this all, is there a need for more attention to this as well?

-- Mark