Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH v3 00/15] virtio-mem: paravirtualized memory

From: David Hildenbrand
Date: Thu May 14 2020 - 08:20:27 EST


On 14.05.20 13:47, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 14.05.20 13:10, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 14.05.20 12:12, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 14.05.20 12:02, teawater wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2020å5æ14æ 16:48ïDavid Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> åéï
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14.05.20 08:44, teawater wrote:
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got a kernel warning with v2 and v3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hui,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for playing with the latest versions. Surprisingly, I can
>>>>> reproduce even by hotplugging a DIMM instead as well - that's good, so
>>>>> it's not related to virtio-mem, lol. Seems to be some QEMU setup issue
>>>>> with older machine types.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you switch to a newer qemu machine version, especially
>>>>> pc-i440fx-5.0? Both, hotplugging DIMMs and virtio-mem works for me with
>>>>> that QEMU machine just fine.
>>>>
>>>> I still could reproduce this issue with pc-i440fx-5.0 or pc. Did I miss anything?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Below I don't even see virtio_mem. I had to repair the image (filesystem
>>> fsck) because it was broken, can you try that as well?
>>>
>>> Also, it would be great if you could test with v4.
>>>
>>
>> Correction, something seems to be broken either in QEMU or the kernel. Once I
>> define a DIMM so it's added and online during boot, I get these issues:
>>
>> (I have virtio-mem v4 installed in the guest)
>>
>> #! /bin/bash
>> sudo x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 \
>> -machine pc-i440fx-5.0,accel=kvm,usb=off \
>> -cpu host \
>> -no-reboot \
>> -nographic \
>> -device ide-hd,drive=hd \
>> -drive if=none,id=hd,file=/home/dhildenb/git/Fedora-Cloud-Base-31-1.9.x86_64.qcow2,format=qcow2 \
>> -m 1g,slots=10,maxmem=2G \
>> -smp 1 \
>> -object memory-backend-ram,id=mem0,size=256m \
>> -device pc-dimm,id=dimm0,memdev=mem0 \
>> -s \
>> -monitor unix:/var/tmp/monitor,server,nowait
>>
>>
>> Without the DIMM it seems to work just fine.
>>
>
> And another correction.
>
> Using QEMU v5.0.0, Linux 5.7-rc5, untouched
> Fedora-Cloud-Base-32-1.6.x86_64.qcow2, I get even without any memory hotplug:
>
> #! /bin/bash
> sudo x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 \
> -machine pc-i440fx-5.0,accel=kvm,usb=off \
> -cpu host \
> -no-reboot \
> -nographic \
> -device ide-hd,drive=hd \
> -drive if=none,id=hd,file=/home/dhildenb/git/Fedora-Cloud-Base-32-1.6.x86_64.qcow2,format=qcow2 \
> -m 5g,slots=10,maxmem=6G \
> -smp 1 \
> -s \
> -kernel /home/dhildenb/git/linux/arch/x86/boot/bzImage \
> -append "console=ttyS0 rd.shell nokaslr swiotlb=noforce" \
> -monitor unix:/var/tmp/monitor,server,nowait
>
>
> Observe how big the initial RAM even is!
>
>
> So this is no DIMM/hotplug/virtio_mem issue. With memory hotplug, it seems to get
> more likely to trigger if "swiotlb=noforce" is not specified.
>
> "swiotlb=noforce" seems to trigger some pre-existing issue here. Without
> "swiotlb=noforce", I was only able to observe this via pc-i440fx-2.1,
>

(talking to myself :) )

I think I finally understood why using "swiotlb=noforce" with hotplugged
memory is wrong - or with memory > 3GB. Via "swiotlb=noforce" you tell
the system to "Never use bounce buffers (for debugging)". This works as
long as all memory is DMA memory (e.g., < 3GB) AFAIK.

"If specified, trying to map memory that cannot be used with DMA will
fail, and a rate-limited warning will be printed."

Hotplugged memory (under QEMU) is never added below 4GB, because of the
PCI hole. So both, memory from DIMMs and from virtio-mem will end up at
or above 4GB. To make a device use that memory, you need bounce buffers.

Hotplugged memory is never DMA memory.

--
Thanks,

David / dhildenb