Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu-tasks: *_ONCE() for rcu_tasks_cbs_head
From: Joel Fernandes
Date: Tue Feb 18 2020 - 19:01:52 EST
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 02:54:55PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 05:45:03PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:22:26 -0800
> > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 09:11:42PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 08:27:19AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 08:56:48AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > I just took offence at the Changelog wording. It seems to suggest there
> > > > > > actually is a problem, there is not.
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting the changelog: "Not appropriate for backporting due to failure
> > > > > being unlikely."
> > > >
> > > > That implies there is failure, however unlikely.
> > > >
> > > > In this particular case there is absolutely no failure, except perhaps
> > > > in KCSAN. This patch is a pure annotation such that KCSAN can understand
> > > > the code.
> > > >
> > > > Like said, I don't object to the actual patch, but I do think it is
> > > > important to call out false negatives or to describe the actual problem
> > > > found.
> > >
> > > I don't feel at all comfortable declaring that there is absolutely
> > > no possibility of failure.
> >
> > Perhaps wording it like so:
> >
> > "There's know known issue with the current code, but the *_ONCE()
> > annotations here makes KCSAN happy, allowing us to focus on KCSAN
> > warnings that can help bring about known issues in other code that we
> > can fix, without being distracted by KCSAN warnings that we do not see
> > a problem with."
> >
> > ?
>
> That sounds more like something I might put in rcutodo.html as a statement
> of the RCU approach to KCSAN reports.
>
> But switching to a different situation (for variety, if nothing else),
> what about the commit shown below?
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> commit 35bc02b04a041f32470ae6d959c549bcce8483db
> Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue Feb 18 13:41:02 2020 -0800
>
> rcutorture: Mark data-race potential for rcu_barrier() test statistics
>
> The n_barrier_successes, n_barrier_attempts, and
> n_rcu_torture_barrier_error variables are updated (without access
> markings) by the main rcu_barrier() test kthread, and accessed (also
> without access markings) by the rcu_torture_stats() kthread. This of
> course can result in KCSAN complaints.
>
> Because the accesses are in diagnostic prints, this commit uses
> data_race() to excuse the diagnostic prints from the data race. If this
> were to ever cause bogus statistics prints (for example, due to store
> tearing), any misleading information would be disambiguated by the
> presence or absence of an rcutorture splat.
>
> This data race was reported by KCSAN. Not appropriate for backporting
> due to failure being unlikely and due to the mild consequences of the
> failure, namely a confusing rcutorture console message.
>
> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> index 5453bd5..b3301f3 100644
> --- a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> @@ -1444,9 +1444,9 @@ rcu_torture_stats_print(void)
> atomic_long_read(&n_rcu_torture_timers));
> torture_onoff_stats();
> pr_cont("barrier: %ld/%ld:%ld\n",
> - n_barrier_successes,
> - n_barrier_attempts,
> - n_rcu_torture_barrier_error);
> + data_race(n_barrier_successes),
> + data_race(n_barrier_attempts),
> + data_race(n_rcu_torture_barrier_error));
Would it be not worth just fixing the data-race within rcutorture itself?
thanks,
- Joel